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"Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To" (murdersofa) 10/26/2014 at 19:22 • Filed to: idiocy

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Some dude yesterday was insisting the only true measure of a car's performance is its top speed, which in 99% of cars is limited by tires and not the performance of the car itself.

But no, since his car had a slightly higher electronically-limited top speed (which the car couldn't reach on a bet), his is better.

U fokkin wot m8

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:24

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So cars where the top speed is most likely to never be used is better than say acceleration or handling, which is used all the time? Someone is a bonehead.

Brian Silvestro > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:24

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GET READY AUTOX POST COMING IN 5 MINUTES

I was the fastest stock car overall

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:24

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Quoted top speeds are always wrong anyway. Fiat for example has cars with fairly different gearing and power all rated at 99mph, because I assume insurance goes higher if the car can pass 100mph. Basically they lie.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:25

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That's like saying that the only true measure of a motocross rider is the number of flips he has done. Yes a triple backflip is impressive, but it's rarely used.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:25

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As bad as people who think a cars performance can only be determined by individual aspects such as...

0-60 time

Horsepower

Weight

Drivetrain layout

Transmission type

I could go on, but point has been made. Individual specs over the sum of all the parts.

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:26

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BRO MY CIVIC CANCAN DO 180MPH WITH JUST A COBB SHIFTER AND HEADERS BRO. BRO DO YOU EVEN TOP SPEED?!?!

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:27

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If there was no air, a Rover Metro would do a million miles an hour. So there.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:28

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one of my old friends tried to tell me that the higher the speedo goes the higher the top speed was lol

I then told him that my car (a diesel station wagon AKA mom-mobile) was technically faster than his 86 Mustang GT Trolololol

That shut him up pretty quickly ;)

JGrabowMSt > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:28

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So, by that logic, a stock 427 Shelby Cobra is outperformed* by a stock Mercedes C300 sedan?

*Shelby Cobra top speed is limited by the aerodynamics to ~140MPH, C300 is electronically limited to 155MPH. Lets not even talk about the difference in horsepower, torque or coolness......

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:29

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Its one thing to appreciate a terrible car's Surprising agility, for instance My Dad's Odyssey does 0-60 in 12 Seconds weighing in at just over 4200lbs, 210Hp with a 4speed Auto. Is that impressive for a V6 Minivan, hell yes, but that doesnt mean I can go compare it to a S2000.

wiffleballtony > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:35

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While that might have been true 20 years ago, when breaking 200 mph was rare, its a pretty asinine comment to make these days. IMHO these days youre quarter mile and skidpad numbers are probably the most relevant.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut 10/26/2014 at 19:36

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No it would not because there would be no air in the tires.

Mattbob > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 19:46

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Thats the logic of an eight year old.

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 10/26/2014 at 20:12

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Hush, technicalities.

BrianNutter > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 10/26/2014 at 20:13

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I love oddyseess (whatever), they autocross faster than an e type according to grm!

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > BrianNutter 10/26/2014 at 20:15

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They handle corners way better than they should. It baffles me How agile Our 2000 Odyssey is.

Jay Lauer > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 21:40

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http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4732793738…

BUY IT.

DipodomysDeserti > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 22:05

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Limited by tires? Pretty much every "performance" car I've ever purchased came with ZR rated tires. No way in hell any of them is getting near 186 mph. My damn FIAT came with ZR rated Pirellis.

DipodomysDeserti > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 10/26/2014 at 22:09

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My Subaru speedo agrees with your friend.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > DipodomysDeserti 10/26/2014 at 22:11

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Wait, is that on startup or were you actually going that fast???.......

DipodomysDeserti > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 10/26/2014 at 22:20

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I was actually going that fast. Keep in mind speedos are usually off a bit especially when topped out.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > DipodomysDeserti 10/26/2014 at 22:23

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U WOT M8!?!?! :O

I've actually hit 105 in my Sportwagen LOL ;) The electronically limited top speed is (officially) 130MPH with 140HP and 236TQ... I wonder what it would be with 175WHP and 330TQ?

DipodomysDeserti > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 10/26/2014 at 22:33

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I'll have to try to top out my diesel one day. It's got 265hp and 425 lb.ft. Of torque and is much slipier than the WRX.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Jay Lauer 10/26/2014 at 22:54

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THERE ARE A GREAT MANY REASONS WHY I SADLY CANNOT

twochevrons > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 10/26/2014 at 22:59

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Funnily enough, the speedometer on my car (Volvo 850R) only reads up to 140mph, while the car tops out at 155. Not that I've tried it, or anything.

Of course, the 85mph speedometers that were required in the '80s were hilarious too, especially when they implemented them by leaving the numbers off after 85.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > twochevrons 10/26/2014 at 23:04

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Late 80's Mustangs all had 85MPH speedos... and topped out at 137 lol

My Jetta has a 160MPH but can only hit 130 :(

Dusty Ventures > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/26/2014 at 23:48

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You should point out to him that, by that logic, this is a better car than nearly every Mercedes/BMW/Audi built in the last 10+ years.

Dusty Ventures > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 10/26/2014 at 23:51

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Problem solved

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > Dusty Ventures 10/27/2014 at 06:25

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No it wouldn't be, because there would still be a vacuum the size of the entire atmosphere.

Dusty Ventures > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 10/27/2014 at 06:45

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Hush, technicalities ;)

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Dusty Ventures 10/27/2014 at 07:58

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No speed limiter?

Dusty Ventures > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 10/27/2014 at 08:26

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The supercharged version was supposedly limited to 158

Connor Jones > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 11/05/2014 at 01:45

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My b5 a4 2.8l v6 is similar, apparently topped at 149 when new, maybe i'll runa salt flats test on that theory (I live 1.5 hours from the bonneveille salt flats) but back to the point, my speedo reads up to 160. My merkur xr4ti did the same was supposed to top at 140, speedo ran to 150.